{"id":263468,"date":"2025-10-06T05:51:29","date_gmt":"2025-10-06T05:51:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/johnnganga.org\/new\/john-n-n-nga%c2%80%c2%99anga%c2%80%c2%99a-meditation-of-6th-october-2025a%c2%80%c2%a61st-timothy-5-vs-1-6a%c2%80%c2%a6a%c2%80%c2%a6-relations-between-ages\/"},"modified":"2026-06-05T10:01:11","modified_gmt":"2026-06-05T10:01:11","slug":"relations-between-ages","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webfocuskenya.com\/jnnn\/relations-between-ages\/","title":{"rendered":"Meditation Of 6th OCTOBER 2025 1st Timothy 5 vs 1-6.. relations between ages"},"content":{"rendered":"

Day 1<\/strong><\/p>\n

1 Timothy 5<\/strong><\/p>\n

Do not rebuke an older man harshly, but exhort him as if he were your father. Treat younger men as brothers<\/strong><\/p>\n

In this chapter, the young Christian leader, Timothy, is being taught how to look after the various members in his church. For example, in verse 1, he is being told how to handle older people.<\/p>\n

Do not rebuke an older man harshly, but exhort him as if he were your father. Treat younger men as brothers, older women as mothers, and younger women as sisters, with absolute purity.<\/p>\n

Very interesting! That although we certainly are all one in Christ, there must be a clear indication of age differences in treatment. The thing that comes out very clearly is the importance of respecting people who are older than you.<\/p>\n

That will be something you have to ask yourself all the time as a Christian, whether you are involved in disrespecting older people. The church must be seen as a family with respect. In a family, you have, for example, grandparents. There will be a way of dealing with them as grandparents.<\/p>\n

Okay, by the time the parents are becoming grandparents, the grandparents themselves start exiting the stage, there are as not as many grandparents as there are parents. But you must know that in a good church, in a good family, there is a way of showing the old respect, first the grandparents, then you come to the parents who are the adults. These are the movers and shakers of the church and also the current movers and shakers of society. And there is a way you have to deal with them. But the younger must also be respected. Whether you are the older grandparents, or parents, there must be a way of treating adult children who are themselves parents. You can”t treat them like small children. And then there is now the single youth. The grandchildren or the children depending on who is talking about them need respect and acceptance. or even great-grandchildren. They are all growing! They are not yet adults, but they may be young adults or below. and there is a way of treating them and there is a way of them treating others. All that will be something very, very important to discuss as a family or church. And we need to ask ourselves, is that something we are dealing with? or in our church, we don”t bother in the way we relate with one another.<\/p>\n

I’m talking to the grandparents and the great-grandparents. I think by that time because of their physical energy levels, they may not be able to move around as much as they used to move. So they are more visited than they visit the younger. I think you need to, as an older person, ask yourself, what kind of advice are you giving the youth? What kind of mentoring?<\/p>\n

Day 2<\/strong><\/p>\n

Exodus 20<\/strong><\/p>\n

12 ‘”Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you<\/strong><\/p>\n

What about succession planning? As grand parent, your sell by date cannot be very far if you are in your 80. What are we doing about ensuring that the things God has taught you through sometimes very troublesome, painful process do not go to waste. That the next two generations that are looking up to you, (even three generations) that are looking up to you, whenever they visit you, ensure they actually are learning from you and gaining various lessons out of your stories.<\/p>\n

Of course, old people are known for telling stories, but don”t just tell a story just to entertain. Tell a story with a purpose! Instead of speaking theory, the bible says, let them know how that verse applies to an incident that you went through whether in your 20s, or in your 40”s, or in your 60”s, or in your 70”s. share with them. It is your responsibility to ensure those stories don”t die with you.<\/p>\n

Of course if you can write them, that will be one of the best thing because then that”s likely to last longer, for memories are fickle. Ever heard somebody say the faintest pencil has a better memory than the best brain? So it means that if you are able to write these things down when you are in your 70”s and 80”s, the things that you have learnt overtime, will be used to produce books!<\/p>\n

Of course, in Africa they say most people don”t read, but some read! and the researchers read any way. the people who are now out there doing things, they look for information. Put it down, write it. If you don”t know how to write look for a ghost writer! Part of your pension put it to some use. let a younger person listen to you and write. Get a digital tape and tape whatever comes to your mind, then give it to a younger person who will produce the book under your name as autobiography. Although he is the one who did most of the donkey work, but the ideas are yours!<\/p>\n

That is the challenge for those who are above 65, called senior citizens. Your major things are the things God has taught already and they are not going to go to waste. That way, you will leave a legacy by giving the stories and lessons out of those stories to whoever comes to see you. whoever is willing to listen. I am suggesting the other method is to write it down.<\/p>\n

The other method now is video and put in the YouTube account. You open YouTube account and start recording for YouTube! These are ideas God has taught you. And that means it will now be available internationally. Those ideas will not benefit just your children. They are going to benefit people who are of much wider audience. People whom you have never met.<\/p>\n

Somebody from Asia will search on a topic you have spoken on, and will listen to you. he might be an Eskimo. They don”t have to have ever known you. They don”t need to know you. But you do not want to die with that information.<\/p>\n

Day 3<\/strong><\/p>\n

Titus 2:4<\/strong><\/p>\n

Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children<\/strong><\/p>\n

The late Dr. Munroe used to say the graves can be very rich because people die without downloading all that God had given them. So, do be in that category. Are you that old and you are in the church? That recording needs to happen.<\/p>\n

But I think that”s the responsibility of the older people to the younger. But the younger people need that realization of the need! that a pastor will organize some social activity and have the older people tell stories about how the church started. Tell the youth what troubles the church went through, what caused the split, and how it was healed. The last time you had split was 30or 40 years ago. Now you know how such a split can be avoided.<\/p>\n

He is not talking theory; he is talking about what actually happened. And you don”t have to repeat doing what he said. Have you heard of the saying that those who don”t learn from history, condemn themselves to repeat it? So the fact that you don”t know what happened, it is not a very good thing as a young person.<\/p>\n

I am now challenging the younger people, create opportunities for the older people to tell real stories to you and record! Create an opportunity for you to question them as they tell the stories.<\/p>\n

So no organization should fail to have its history told when the founder is still alive, when the people who are there in the past 100 years are still alive. They are retirees. Call them back! let them tell the stories! Ask the questions! That will be something that is important for your future and that of your organization.<\/p>\n

What about in the family situation? Why not create a regularity of meetings between old and young? Maybe once a year, you have meetings with the whole family that includes all alive. Assuming the great-grandfather is alive, all the people that are from him, that is his children, the children of his children, and the children of his grandchildren come together. And the older people tell stories, whatever, but they are passing on a message in the process! Couldn”t you make it once a year? Then once every two years? Or once every three years?<\/p>\n

But do something that is regular! Why regular? Because if it is regular, it will not depend on people”s feelings! You know this year we are meeting, whether you feel nice or don”t feel nice about others. Whether I like my grandfather or I don”t like my grandfather, it is a system that allows the legacy to go on.<\/p>\n

Timothy is being told, look! As a church, your church should be like a family! so that you look to those older people and learn from them. So that is something that I think will be very clear for grandfathers in passing on information to younger church members.<\/p>\n

But one more thing to this grandfather, great grandfathers, grandmothers and great grandmothers: you must have some three realizations,<\/p>\n

Number one, the scriptures do not require adults to obey other adults. Nowhere in the scriptures! In Ephesians, the people being told to obey, they are told, children, obey your parents. And although your son will remain your son even when he is 70 and you are 90, he is not your baby; he is your son, don”t misuse names. She is your daughter, not your baby. And the word of God is clear, when you are an adult, you don”t obey your parents’\u0080\u00a6 You obey God. However, whatever your age, even if you are 80, and your father is 100, you must always respect them. That”s what Timothy is being told here. There must be clear respect. In fact, it is a command: Honor your father and your mother. So you cannot fail to respect your parent because they are senile and old, and expect not to get a curse from God, because it is God who is commanding it!<\/p>\n

However, these old people must come to the younger people with the knowledge that they are advisors, not instructors. A father is an instructor to his child son, but an advisor to his adult son. And so that needs to be dealt with clearly in a fellowship.<\/p>\n

I keep repeating the Jewish story on the journey from Egypt to Canaan. That anybody who was below 19 years, and 11 months and 29 days, that will mean he was one day short of being 20 years old, even if they refused to go and fight in Canaan, even if they refused to go and fight in Canaan, they did not die in the desert. God took them as children.<\/p>\n

When God held people accountable for rebellion, children were not held accountable because they were under instructions of their parents. they were not expected to disobey their parents. in the Jewish system, to be an adult means to be 20 years and above.<\/p>\n

Why did God hold a 20 year old responsible for their rebellion and he will not hold a 19 year old responsible for their rebellion? Because the adult child was not expected to obey their parents, but consider the parents advice. If the parents chose not to fight, that did not stop the adult children themselves going on and fight. And that will not be regarded as disrespecting the parents, because he was not supposed to obey them anyway!<\/p>\n

Day 4<\/strong><\/p>\n

Exodus 30:14<\/strong><\/p>\n

All who cross over, those twenty years old or more, are to give an offering to the Lord.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Adult children are supposed to listen to their parents, evaluate what their parents are saying, and then, listen to the voice of God, and ask, What does God want me to do, and do it! even if what they are doing is very different from what the parents will do’\u0080\u00a6it is if they are adults. But whatever they do must please the Lord.<\/p>\n

So, the older parents, must then understand we should retain a friendship even with the son that has not followed your instructions. similar to being in consultancy which I have done since I retired. You go to an organization, they tell you what their issues are, you give them clear advice, they pay you, but later you have no idea after that whether they implemented your ideas or not. After a consultancy, you do not have executive authority, you advise only. There is a big difference between advising and instructing. You instruct somebody, you order somebody, and they must obey. When you command somebody, they must obey! They fail to obey at their own risk!<\/p>\n

But when you advise, it is advised to evaluate, then decide if your advice is worth implementing. If they actually implement your advice, it will not be because you gave the advice, it is because they found the advice good. Therefore, if that advice backfires, if they do something and it backfires, they will not hold the advisor responsible. It is them who made the decision! they evaluated..<\/p>\n

And if advice goes well, they do not necessarily give credit to the advisor, because they are the ones who did the analysis and decided. so, that needs to be thoroughly understood because when it is not properly understood, it will create problems for how the older people and the younger ones can relate with one another profitably.<\/p>\n

So what are we saying? The younger people must not let the older people go to the grave with the many experiences God has given them. believe you me, youth, you may look much more brighter, you even have a Phd. So you are much brighter than your grandparents, but they know their experiences, or what they are going through you have never gone through, and certainly, experience is a good teacher. Respect the learning. Listen before deciding.<\/p>\n

Unfortunately, experience is a very expensive teacher but still a teacher. That”s why you should learn from other people”s experiences, rather than expect to go through it on your own. If there are some of their painful experiences you can avoid.. it will make you life better. You know by listening to older people, you reduce the amount of pain you can go through. You will still go through a lot of pain, but you will not repeat what others have gone through if you choose to learn from the older.<\/p>\n

Day 5<\/strong><\/p>\n

Leviticus 19:32<\/strong><\/p>\n

‘”‘Stand up in the presence of the aged, show respect for the elderly, and revere your God. I am the Lord.<\/strong><\/p>\n

So it is certainly in your interest as a younger person to create those opportunities. Those opportunities as a church will mean, you read biographies of the men of God. I like reading all the missionaries’ stories that are recorded. Hearing how God dealt with the previous generations helps me to show respect to older people.<\/p>\n

One of the ways of showing respect is listening to them. Even if you will not do what they are telling you, just listen to their stories, listen to them seriously. I think that is very, very important. We are also saying, the older people must not treat adults, younger adults as children. They must be very, very careful how they treat them. They show them respect also, and they do not demand that they do what they are saying.<\/p>\n

They just give advice to the youth and leave them to make decisions. That will be a very, very important thing for anyone to understand.<\/p>\n

So, that is what Timothy is being told! Timothy, do rebuke an older man harshly<\/p>\n

What does that mean? The Pastor, even if he is younger, is still God”s voice in the church, and his congregation will include his retired bishop, will include his retired Sunday school teacher, will include his retired mum. So, sometimes these older ones will ignore God’s message. They are in the wrong!<\/p>\n

But as a Pastor the spirit of God will show you there is a subject you deal with about their behavior or their conduct. You cannot avoid correcting the older person when they are wrong. I think that”s what I hear Timothy being told.<\/p>\n

However, as you correct them, the harsh voice must never be heard; the tone of your voice must be a tone that shows respect. Know disrespect you are doing will cause a lot of chaos in the church. Do you, as a Pastor, tell off your mother..'”Mum, who do you think you are!'” Look for better wording. You are saying the same thing, but the moment you are talking to an older person, the word of God is saying, you cannot talk to them harshly, like talking down to them. If these are people older and better than you in many ways, show respect, yet be firm. That”s what I hear Timothy being told, relate with them well! yes! Correct them, yes! But if you have to rebuke them or correct them, and they are older than you, don”t do it harshly.<\/p>\n

Day 6<\/strong><\/p>\n

1 Timothy 5:1<\/strong><\/p>\n

Do not rebuke an older man harshly, but exhort him as if he were your father. Treat younger men as brothers<\/strong><\/p>\n

Is there any one of us who is guilty of being rude to older people? They go home feeling disrespected? That”s something to repent about! I hear the bible teaching us to avoid it. But similarly, is there anyone because they respect people, they respect their parents, they respect their boss, they respect whoever, and because of it, they have ended up in sin? Or failing to help the older person out of sin because of too much respect? My friend, if you have ended up in the wrong teaching due to fear of disrespecting your parents, dead or alive, it is wrong. Like have you gone into cultural, ancestral worship, because you can’t tell your mother no? Then that is very unscriptural behaviour!<\/p>\n

Timothy is being told that the old should even be rebuked. If your father, who has brought you up in church, is starting to go back to ancestral worship, asking you to do things to appease the spirit of the dead, rebuke him but with respect! Clearly and openly, but rebuke him in such a way that he cannot accuse you of being rude.<\/p>\n

So, you are even told to rebuke him! You can have no excuse, ‘”oh I did it, but you know I was told by older people, what could I do?'” No! You cannot go the wrong direction because you respect someone beyond God. Your father is not your second God.<\/p>\n

‘”Oh, but you know he is my boss, when he said we would go to Mombasa together, what could I have said? If I said no, it’s a big risk. You know he is the one who employed me, I have to respect him. Even the bible says I should respect our masters..'” No! You are being told you can rebuke your boss, but you rebuke him not harshly. You can say no to your boss. That”s what I hear in any relationship, even in a church situation.<\/p>\n

The older people cannot be allowed to mislead the church, just because they are older. They must be clearly rebuked, but with a lot of respect. That”s something I hear the bible telling us in this chapter.<\/p>\n

So, what are we as youth to do? Timothy is told,<\/p>\n

But exhort him as if he were your father.<\/p>\n

In other words, ALTHOUGH you are actually rebuking him, but it comes through as an exhortation. If you want to understand how to do it when you deal with your father, just be a really respectful kid always. Even if you are 60 and your father is 80, you still feel there is a way of talking to him you would find it difficult to just tell him off. Similarly, even older people in the church must respect age. You may be the pastor, you may be the bishop, but you are being told: don”t talk down on those old people. They may be wrong, but don”t talk down on them.<\/p>\n

Why is the bible so keen that you are careful how you deal with older people? I guess reason number one is because respecting parents is part of the commandment of God, and if you don”t as a pastor do it, you have set an example that will allow a member to tell off his pastor. Others feel, ‘”I can also tell off my father!'”. You are setting a bad example. Timothy has been told, set a good example.<\/p>\n

So the reason why you have to respect the aged, even if you are the senior most, or you are the head of the church, you still have to talk to your older folk in the church in a way that show respect, is so that you may not set a bad example to other young people in your congregation.<\/p>\n

I think number two reason is that, whereas you may be unhappy on a certain issue, and so you are rebuking because of a certain issue, there are many other issues you need their wise help from them. So you do not want to create animosity that stops them advising you. That stops them talking to you, that stops them sharing their experiences with you. So you want to rebuke on a specific issue, but be clear you are very happy with them on many other issues. So that they can continue advising you.<\/p>\n

Thirdly, I think the reason why you need to be very careful with them, it is because one of their major job as older people is prayer for you! Praying for you. How do they pray for you when you have created animosity with them?<\/p>\n

But after saying all these, the bible is still repeating it that is okay to rebuke them. But don”t rebuke them without thinking how you are doing it. That will be something that will be important for you to look and think about.<\/p>\n

So timothy is also told,<\/p>\n

Treat younger men as brothers.<\/p>\n

How do you treat your biological brothers? With brothers you can actually be open to them and tell them exactly how you feel about certain things. You are not as limited as when you are dealing with your father. You need such people, you need colleagues, as friends who are just like you. That way you are able to share your failures because you also know their failures.<\/p>\n

So have people in church who you treat like your siblings. Treat younger men your age as brothers. There are many advantages out of having this group of people in your church.<\/p>\n

First, because they are free with you, they will not hide you when you goof in the way you are leading the church. But they need to know they have the freedom of interference. That they can tell you off, that you are ready to be told off if and when necessary.<\/p>\n

But I think number two reason for needing these people is that they are like you. They are the force you can call in short notice with no delaying protocols. When you are having a crisis, you can call them in very short notice. They will not feel disrespected because they are colleagues with you. You need them in your church.<\/p>\n

Day 7<\/strong><\/p>\n

1 timothy 5<\/strong><\/p>\n

2 older women as mothers, and younger women as sisters, with absolute purity.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Verse 2 is talking about older women, treating them as mothers.<\/strong><\/p>\n

2 older women as mothers, and younger women as sisters, with absolute purity.<\/strong><\/p>\n

If you are a man, like Timothy was, there is a way you may find it easier to handle the fathers, the older men, than the older women who are like your mother. Remember the way your mother loves you, so deal with them similarly. But, do not neglect correcting, helping those older people. If you are the pastor, you are also a pastor of these mothers and grandmothers. And if you can talk to your mother, or talk to your grandmother, you can also help other people of the same age in the church.<\/p>\n

What about young women when you are a young pastor man? That is the trickiest thing! This is because it is possible every young woman would like to become this young pastor”s wife. But the bible is telling you to be careful with them! treat them the way you will treat your sisters.<\/p>\n

In other words, when you deal with your sister, the thought of ever sleeping with her is out! No one can ever imagine that. Similarly, sisters in the church they must be seen you”re your sisters. So, you will deal with them, according to this verse, with absolute purity. This is very strong language. that you treat these younger people, here it is younger women, with absolute purity. There should not be a hint of immorality.<\/p>\n

That means you as a younger person, cannot joke around with the sisters of your age. ‘”Oh! darling!, Oh! my sweetheart!'” and you are joking in church! They are not your wife; that is not absolute purity. You know purity is holiness, but now he adds another word, absolute. That means you are so careful that no sister in the church can never mistake you for being interested in her body. You are interested in her spirit.<\/p>\n

You are trying to encourage her to walk with the Lord. Holiness must be practiced. I think what Timothy is being told is what every young man is also being told. Deal with your sisters in the church, deal with women in the church if you are a young man, in such a way that you do not mislead them. You do not make them start having ideas that you have no intention of fulfilling.<\/p>\n

I think that”s what I hear the bible telling us in dealing with various relationships, important relationships, in a church. This is where everybody is playing their role in serving God and working with one another.<\/p>\n

Why is this subject so important that Paul has to put it here? It is because once relationships in a church are faulty, soon enough, even the gospel preaching will be interfered with. There is no way you can have a revival with people who don”t respect each other, or with pastors who are not involving the whole body, old and young. in a revival, you need everybody. With bad relationships, everybody can”t be on board for the revival.<\/p>\n

Thirdly, you need these relationships because then we are able to use our energies to grow together rather than be in a fight. If you are fighting between yourselves, you will not have spiritual growth at all.<\/p>\n

May today’s church learn these imperatives for the health of the church and progress of God’s kingdom in our generation.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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